Crow wrote:Main point being with this. Shift only wants what shift wants. The community would riot if this happened. If it were up to you, this game would of been dead quite some time ago. You take into account 0% of what the community wants, or what is better for the majority of the players. This is the worst part about our community in the past. People don't take into account what the majority of the population wants, or how changes would really impact the game play / server population. I played a map just now, to where it would of been impossible to kill this one D spot on the map without LOS sniping.
Any massive change to the mods core functions, would be a huge impact on how the players would react to it. This mod version (Legendz) has been created over several years of 100s of players feed back. No offense plas, but this is probably one area that even you lacked in since my time coming into anni. Most of the edits you have done since then were based on your personal preference, or that of someone like DXSTRYR, who might I add hold no respect in our community. People always have opinions, but they never ask what the server thinks about these opinions. One reason our community still thrives, and is still widely active to this day, is because I do personally go through the server and ask each and every player before making any change that would effect game play. I get feedback from the community before doing anything that would drastically change things. I even brought up this topic again, the LOS sniping, and I can assure you it had no support, except for Shift.
All changes done to the mod were approved of by the community before being set in place. I have more experience at a higher skill level than any active (and probably unactive at this point, as this is my 10th year playing in this mod) player in annihilation. I think this experience that I have has also helped me over the years when deciding what changes needed to be done. Of course making sure I clear any changes with the majority of the community before setting them in place.
I see a lot of people (who are not really a part of the community) say, unbalanced this, and unbalanced that, but this mod version that we use has been worked on since the days we hosted it in the (S1) server, and has evolved since then over time. It has been used in many competition games, and has been discussed several times with some of the highest skilled players to ever grace this mod. It has been reworked several times to fit the needs of the casual pubber, as well as the competitive elite that plays in it.
One thing I would of loved to see more of in annihilation is more collaborations together to get things done. But because of reasons stated above this has never really happened.
Anyways, that's just crow's two cents on the subject.
-CrowOZ
what you guys think? the subject in question was the los sniping on the pbeam.Shift wrote:I guess you didn't read the title.
"client side particle beam fix"
I would like to patch MYSELF from being able to exploit the LOS bug.
By the way, I highly doubt the community would "riot" even if you did fix the bug. Where are they gonna play LT? Yeah right lol
The most that would happen is people would just adapt to the changes and learn that if the beam don't hit, then it ain't legit. As much as an advantage this gives me, why would I want to be called a cheater for shooting someone through a solid object?
I think what the problem isn't about what I want. I think its more about what you want. Afterall if you didn't want it in the server in the first place, it wouldn't be there right?
Heres what I think; you want the mod to be as easy as possible, noobed down to the point where basically anyone can pick it up and just have fun right away. That way you can continue to establish influence and superiority among the Annihilation community.
I think my biggest problem with the server is the fact that how much is put in to reward noobish behavior. Like I'm actually noticing the retrogression of my own skill because I've had to dumb down my tactics to camping and shooting inanimate objects.
These are a list of changes, and obviously people would like them because it makes the mod so love easy.
- 5 Second spawn shield
- Removal of exploding bodies (so that armor kits can be easily picked up after killing an enemy with turret killer instead of standard fire)
- Increasing the damage of Vulcan and reducing the spread (which was already a very powerful weapon already)
- 1.31 rapid fire railgun without energy drain(obviously over powered)
- Troll armor replaced with Titan armor code to make Troll easier to rocket jump
- One armor kit repairs a station to full use
The fact of the matter is the only reason why people like the changes, is because this is the only populated Annihilation server on the list. I guarantee if you changed your server to "The Land of Oz" people would just go right back to that high ping reject server.
If you read the logs you would see how many people actually feel the same way I do about certain things pertaining to the mod. I'm just patiently waiting for the day you add weapons factory in the tab menu for that final nail in Annihilations dick shaped coffin.
So be honest with yourself before you start throwing insults at me. The community has NO love CLUE on what it actually wants or needs. It just needs a leader figure. At least you've done that right. Now all you need to do is whats best for the longevity of the mod, not what Crow likes.
ps. this doesn't mean we're not friends, it just means I think you're being selfish about the balance of the mod. This has nothing to do with me. Well a little bit, but I've explained that part.
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