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Lawlz wrote:Thank you for taking the time to discredit shitty E-Research Rolo.

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You could have a list of peer reviewed articles that spans from here to Neptune, they are addicts and you can't reason with an addict.
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0_- wrote:
Lawlz wrote:Thank you for taking the time to discredit shitty E-Research Rolo.

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I'm glad we have you two here to stroke each others ego for awhile. :drinkz:

Again, we could care less about even the small negatives of marijuana. And on a side note, if you went through an ounce a week, you definitely shouldn't be preaching to us because we're all apparently just catching up to you. :chillin:
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0_- wrote:You could have a list of peer reviewed articles that spans from here to Neptune, they are addicts and you can't reason with an addict.
The big problem with this statement is that pot is not addictive.
If you had any experience with it, you'd know this.

All the arguments about pot being harmful are moot points.
Nobody is trying to claim it's harmless, but it is less harmful than some of the legal alternatives like alcohol:

1. You can't O.D. on pot.
2. Pot does not impair your reflexes, judgement or motor control. (A stoned driver is far less dangerous than a drunk driver.)
3. Pot smoking is not comparable to smoking cigarettes. No one smokes 20-40 joints a day.
4.Pot is not addictive like nicotine or alcohol.
5. Pot makes people passive, not aggressive like alcohol can. A drunk is far more likely to be violent than a stoner.
6. Pot is not a "gateway drug". If people are inclined to use hard drugs, they may start with pot, but pot does not "lead" or compel people to hard drug use any more than alcohol does.
7. Pot has legitimate medical uses. Nicotine and alcohol don't.
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PoisonousFish wrote:science is bad e-research?

gotta love all the pot head armchair researchers in here. ^_^

oh yeah, and word has it, that all pot smokers will insta swear by allah that marijuana could never potentially do any harm to themselves or others whatsoever. :fshit:

Research Showing the Harmful Effects of Marijuana Use

Landmark 2012 PNAS study: pot permanently lowers IQ
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/ ... c4de3c20f6

Findings are suggestive of a neurotoxic effect of cannabis on the adolescent brain and highlight the importance of prevention and policy efforts targeting adolescents.
Again, they aren't even 100% positive.

Netherlands study of 2,000 teens show pot/psychosis link
http://www.ibtimes.com/pot-psychosis-li ... nds-970684

"That's a very vulnerable period of time for brain development," he said, adding that those with a family history of schizophrenia and psychosis appear to be more affected by the toxic effects of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.
No shit Einstein, people who have a family history of mental illnesses tend to carry over you fucking twats. But no, let's blame all the THC instead.

The study does not prove that smoking pot causes psychotic symptoms, or that psychotic symptoms causes pot use, but the research did find that there is a link between pot and psychosis.
I think you guys should actually read these articles instead of just googling research documents / journals to try and make a valid point.

Schizoid Psychosis during Cannabis Intake
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15787208/

There isn't even a point to try and discredit this one. They had fucking 3 people for their test runs. Good job, I didn't know 3 people accounted for the rest of the world. I guess since Hitler went on a mass genocide, so will we. Guess we're all getting

Marijuana Damages DNA and May Cause Cancer
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 095940.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBtsMTnstZM (for the lulz)

Researchers note that toxic substances in tobacco smoke can damage DNA and increase the risk of lung and other cancers. However, there has been uncertainty over whether marijuana smoke has the same effect. Scientists are especially concerned about the toxicity of acetaldehyde, present in both tobacco and marijuana. However, it has been difficult to measure DNA damage from acetaldehyde with conventional tests.

I would also like to point out, that they only say it MAY cause cancer. No shit it can cause cancer, anything that you inhale that has tar or some toxins can give you cancer. Once they have actually obtained more than a "few" patients who've developed it strictly from smoking marijuana, then maybe they will actually be listened to.

Marijuana May Stunt Fetal Growth in 2010 Netherlands study
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/01/ ... 5L20100122

Ok this one should have been a no-brainer. You shouldn't do 80% of what you normally do when you're pregnant.

Marijuana Associated with Impaired Fetal Growth in 1989 U.S. study
http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198903233201203

Ok, same topic as before, but this time they decided to test cocaine during pregnancy as well. Again, pretty obvious to not do anything related with toxins if you have another human being inside of you.

A Nursing Mother Smoking Marijuana Passes the Drug to Her Child
http://www.drugs.com/hashish.html

Marijuana contains some of the same, and sometimes even more, of the cancer-causing chemicals found in cigarette smoke.
That's funny because I've still yet to see enough people who've actually developed cancer from cannabis still, or even one.

Cannabis Intake During Pregnancy Predicts Long-lasting Neurobehavioural Problems for the Child in 2009 European study
http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 ... 009-0026-0

Another E-journal you'd have to purchase, so it's obviously not worth looking into. If Cannabis was that big of a problem, you wouldn't have to pay for information about it's testing and results.

Habitual Marijuana Use Strongly Associated with Car Crash Injury
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15847617

Ok.. if you shouldn't drink and drive, then don't smoke and drive.. again common sense.
They also don't even give valid numbers for their tests at all.
Self reported marijuana use in the 3 hours prior to the crash/survey and habitual marijuana use over the previous 12 months were recorded, along with a range of other variables potentially related to crash risk. The main outcome measure was hospitalization or death of a vehicle occupant due to car crash injury.

And on a side note, I'm pretty sure drinking and driving is exceedingly worse. Also, most car, "crashes," usually do end up with someone dying or being hospitalized. :chillin:
Blame the incompetence of the driver, and choosing not to drive while fucked up, not the cannabis. That's like popping a bunch of prescribed meds and then going for a spin.

Smoking Marijuana Doubles the Risk of Fatal Accidents
http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/pot_driving.htm

Driving after smoking even a small amount of marijuana almost doubles the risk of a fatal highway accident, according to an extensive study of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal crashes between 2001 and 2003.
Damn, my 3% chance goes up to a 6% chance...
And oh look,
The number of highway deaths contributed the smoking weed were significant, even though they were dwarfed by the number caused by drinking alcohol. Of the drivers involved in fatal accidents, 21.4 percent tested positive for alcohol consumption. Alcohol was estimated to be responsible for 28.6 percent of all fatal highway accidents.
I'd like to point out that they say Alcohol demolishes in terms of fatal accidents, and they don't even list the percentage for that, so I'm assuming it's so low that it would just kill their argument entirely.
Edit: I looked again, it's 2.5% of about 11,000 people.

Marijuana Smoke Contains Higher Levels of Certain Toxins than Tobacco Smoke
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 110328.htm

In this new study, researchers compared marijuana smoke to tobacco smoke, using smoking machines to simulate the smoking habits of users. The scientists found that ammonia levels were 20 times higher in the marijuana smoke than in the tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke...
Thank you for this information, now point me to where marijuana is the source of 3-5 times as many cancer patients as smoking a cigarette.

Marijuana Smoker Face Rapid Lung Destruction: As much as 20 Years Ahead of Tobacco Smokers
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 104017.htm

I'd just suggest reading this one.
At present, about 10% of young adults and 1% of the adult population smoke marijuana regularly
That's the only amount of evidence they give at all to help their case. A generalized statement that about 11% of people are used in their study, but they haven't tested or at least, haven't informed us of how many of these people they have actually observed at all. :hscratch:

Impact On Lungs of One Cannabis Joint Equal to Up To Five Cigarettes
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 085550.htm

The researchers base their findings on 339 adults up to the age of 70
Cannabis smokers complained of wheeze, cough, chest tightness and phlegm. But emphysema, the progressive and crippling lung disease, was only seen in those who smoked tobacco, either alone or in combination.

I would also like to point out that most of their participants were above the age of 40... where most of these problems occur anyways. Good job selective-testing.

Marijuana Component Opens the Door for Virus that Causes Kaposi's Sarcoma (links to Harvard study)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 112156.htm

Ok THC may allow an access way for Kaposi, but that doesn't inevitably give you the virus. You would still have to contract it, which most people are not at risk for this at all.
(In case you don't know what Kaposi is...
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/kaposisarc ... si-sarcoma)

Marijuana Causes Learning and Memory Impairments from the journal Neurobiology.
http://www.livescience.com/630-smoke-ma ... emory.html
This study I can buy, but come on.. It's fucking 2014 where we are programmed to have the attention span of a dog now. So it's not a real surprise by half of the stuff in this study. I suggest reading it to get your own feel on if this feels a bit loose-ended or not.

Either way, in the end, people will continue to smoke; and it will continue to become legalized throughout the country. I'm glad you individuals are trying to ride the high-horse and thwart us with science, but science can't even prove 80% of the accusations you guys make. The only time I'll ever agree with you even remotely about marijuana inhalants is when it comes down to women who are pregnant, or under driving circumstances, both of which should honestly be common sense once again.

:chillin: Happy 4/20 Easter again to those of you out there who celebrated. I went keg-rafting down our local river and it was amazing as everything just thawed out and we had a nice flood.
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I'm high on Tribes because I'm addicted to all you assholes. :trolol:
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DaRk wrote:I'm high on Tribes because I'm addicted to all you assholes. :trolol:
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People were just mad as fuck that instead of looking for easter eggs, we were looking for quarter bags.

It's crazy this topic led into so much controversy...
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